20090510

Mutual Disrespect

"Do you have anything besides... existential destruction of all attempts at reasoning this evening?"
"... Yeah, it's a bit bleak isn't it."
"Can you articulate what if anything is problematic with religion?"
"The usual response is that it's the enemy of reason, etc., but then you have to argue that reason is a good thing.
I would be more inclined just to state that religions are groups of replicators which manifest a great deal of power and use it in ways often contrary to the interests of 'humanity,' and other replicator-groups with the same power and the same human-orthogonal utility functions are much more readily criticized, e.g. nationalisms, political ideologies, secular traditions, technologies, 'globalization', but religion is uniquely sacred, and 'respectable' members of society are obliged to pay lip service to it.

We act like the solution to religious strife is some kind of limp 'mutual respect', where a rabbi and a priest and an imam sit in the same room and say nice things about each other. I'd prefer mutual disrespect. I'd prefer that they sit in that room and argue about total nonsense until they turn blue, and let the rest of the world see how utterly silly it is."


7 comments:

  1. Simply, "progress", so-called, is destroying the earth(land, air, water, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Life, Truth, Love, Peace, Hope, Grace, Miracles, Faith, etc.) ;-(

    Postings have been made at TheDestructionOfTheEarth.Wordpress.com concerning such destruction and perversion and also concerning The Creator's(GOD, Father) promise that HE will "destroy those who destroy the earth(HIS Creation)!" (Rev11:18c)

    Yet there is a Living, Lively Hope!

    However, such Hope is not for that which is of the earth, earthly and fleshly, but there is a Living, Lively Hope for that which is Spirit, Heavenly and Spiritual.

    Hope for that which is Spirit is Alive because "progress", which is the product of mankind's "imag"ination, can pervert, yet not destroy that which is Spirit! For that which is Spirit is Real, and that which is Real is Forever!

    So no matter how perverse this world's systems of religion become, that which is Spirit can only be abused and perverted, not destroyed!

    That which is Spirit is Eternal.......

    As for that which is called "religion".

    "Pure religion and undefiled before GOD The Father(Creator) is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction and to keep oneself uncontaminated by the world." (James 1:27)

    Simply, every other religion is impure and defiled!

    As stated previously, "that which is called ""progress" is of mankind's "imag"ination and can pervert, yet not destroy, that which is Spirit", and so it is that this world, and it's systems of religion, have their version of "Light", which can be turned on and off;

    Their version of "Truth", which is of the "imag"ination;

    Their version of "Love", which should be called lust;

    Their version of "Peace", which needs be enforced;

    Their version of "Hope", which is but a desire for temporal "things";

    Their version of "Faith", which is powerless;

    Their version of "Grace", which is the liberty to "do your own thing";

    And sadly, the favorite color of this world's religion is gray ;-(

    So come out of the shadows! And as is said by many, "Get Real"!

    Once again, "only that which is Spirit is Real, and only that which is Real is Forever"!

    Hope is there would be those who "see" that The Life is in and of The Spirit. Those who "see" will no longer have their portion with the multitudes who are destroying the earth(and, air, water, creatures, vegetation) and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Life, Truth, Love, Peace, Hope, Faith, Grace, etc.) ;-(

    Simply, each breath(Spirit) you take is a revelation of The Source of Life.

    And "A Simple and Spiritual Life is the only Life that will survive!"

    Forever.......

    So "set your affections on Heavenly things" and be not of those "whose god is their bellies because they mind earthly things". Be not of those who "love this world and it's things" and who are "progress"ively destroying the earth(land, air, water, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Life, Truth, Love, Peace, Hope, Faith, Grace, etc.).......

    Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "The WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one" (1John5:19) indeed and Truth.......

    Truth is never ending....... TheDestructionOfTheEarth.Wordpress.Com

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  2. Anonymous11.5.09

    modular crotchular label biscuit.

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  3. A simple application of Google to this entity's words reveal that this is a canned and oft repeated response on the internet, containing some sort of random Evangelical endorsements of whatever backwater version of Christianity is currently popular. I conclude that this comment was probably generated by some sort of spam robot listening for posts tagged 'religion', or the human equivalent of a spam robot. Such a pity we don't have actual readers.

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  4. Ah.. no your a real person, gfrancisd@gmail.com I see. Traffic analysis suggests you live in Gilbert, Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert,_Arizona). I have been unable to locate and address or telephone as of yet.

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  5. Now, why would you seek to locate an address and/or telephone #?

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  6. ah, no. Since this post was titled "Mutual Disrespect" I had been inclined to be rude and or creepy, as is customary for internet forums.

    However, this would get me down, and I agree with your point that "progress" in its current definition is destroying the Earth, and I appreciate your rejection of materialism.

    I personally ( and I do not speak for Keegan, who authored this original post ) do not like organized religion because it seems to open up too much opportunity for groupthink and gives too much power to church officials to control the thoughts of the general public.

    I rather like the writings of William Blake, who was quite spiritual and thought a great deal about matters of religion. He decided that organized religion was false religion, and as a result was declared and antichrist by the church officials in his time.

    I'll think about these things some more and maybe broadcast any coherent thoughts on the internet at an undetermined time.

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  7. Appreciated your response.

    You might appreciate the following:

    “The Hopi Declaration Of Peace”

    It is in the Power of the True Hopi People to unify the minds and spirits of all true peace-seeking peoples of the earth.

    "Hopi" means "Peaceful People" and the truest and greatest power is the strength of Peace because Peace is the Will of The Great Spirit.

    But do not think that just because the True Hopi People have been told by the Great Spirit never to take up arms that the True Hopi People will not fight and even die for what we know to be the right way of Life.

    The True Hopi People know how to fight without killing or hurting.

    The True Hopi People know how to fight with Truth and Positive Force In The Light of The Great Spirit.

    The True Hopi People know how to fight and educate by clear thoughts, good pictures, and by carefully chosen words.

    The True Hopi People know how to show to all the world's children the True Way of Life by setting an example and by working and communicating in a way that reaches the minds and hearts of all people who are truly seeking the methods of a Simple and Spiritual Life which is the only Life that will survive.......

    (The Hopi are an indigenous tribal people in Arizona)

    The above testimony is in perfect harmony with The Teachings and The Life example of The Messiah.

    Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion....... francis

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